B, let alone A; B, not to mention A
Shows that not only B is true, but A is also true. B is the stronger of the two examples.
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彼女は話すことは疎か、満足に呼吸すら出来て居なかった。
Let alone talk, she couldn't even catch her breath (breathe fully).
0
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兄は家の手伝いは疎か、自分の部屋の掃除すら為ない。
My older brother won't even clean up his own room, let alone help around the house.
0
8
痛みが酷くて歩くことは疎か、立ち上がるのも困難だ。
My pain is really bad and I cannot stand up, not to mention walk around.
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Getting the sentences
Construction
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Basic Examples:
漢字は疎か仮名も読めない (can't read kana, let alone kanji)
Where this grammar is found
Grammar usage notes
Ngay cả …
✦Diễn tả việc đó là đương nhiên mà còn…
✦Dùng trong trường hợp biểu thị trạng thái việc đơn giản hơn, dễ dàng hơn còn không đạt được. AはおろかB : ngay cả B còn không thể chứ đừng nói gì đến A (A sẽ ở mức cao hơn là B). Vế B thường mang ý phủ định.
✦Diễn tả việc đó là đương nhiên mà còn…
✦Dùng trong trường hợp biểu thị trạng thái việc đơn giản hơn, dễ dàng hơn còn không đạt được. AはおろかB : ngay cả B còn không thể chứ đừng nói gì đến A (A sẽ ở mức cao hơn là B). Vế B thường mang ý phủ định.
From [bunpro.jp]
は疎か is an expression that works similarly to はもちろん 'of course (A), but (B)' in Japanese. 疎か itself is a な-Adjective that means 'negligent', or 'alienation'. However, this use of 疎か is not seen much in modern Japanese, and the word will mainly be used in set expressions where it doesn't behave exactly as a な-Adjective usually would. Despite this, the meaning of 'alienation', or 'completely removed from' is kept in はおろか, as it simply means 'completely putting aside (A), (B)'.
Common translations include 'let alone (A), (B)', and 'it's needless to say that (A), when (B)'. (B) and (A) will usually be things that fall into the same category, where (B) is considered the far more obvious of the two. Due to this obviousness, (B) will often be immediately followed by the adverbial particle さえ. This shows that (B) is the noteworthy minimum extent.
Alternatively, さえ may be exchanged with other adverbial particles that fill a similar purpose such a も, すら, or まで. In most cases, は疎か sentences tend to have a fairly negative nuance.
Compared to はともかく:
Both set aside one item to comment on another, but the nuance differs. はおろか emphasizes that something is far beyond expectation, often meaning ‘let alone,’ and highlights an extreme gap, as in 漢字はおろか、ひらがなも読めない ('He can’t read hiragana, let alone kanji.'). はともかく means ‘setting aside’ or ‘regardless of,’ used to temporarily bracket one point and move on without judging degree, as in 値段はともかく、味は悪くない ('Putting the price aside, the taste isn’t bad.').
は疎か is an expression that works similarly to はもちろん 'of course (A), but (B)' in Japanese. 疎か itself is a な-Adjective that means 'negligent', or 'alienation'. However, this use of 疎か is not seen much in modern Japanese, and the word will mainly be used in set expressions where it doesn't behave exactly as a な-Adjective usually would. Despite this, the meaning of 'alienation', or 'completely removed from' is kept in はおろか, as it simply means 'completely putting aside (A), (B)'.
Common translations include 'let alone (A), (B)', and 'it's needless to say that (A), when (B)'. (B) and (A) will usually be things that fall into the same category, where (B) is considered the far more obvious of the two. Due to this obviousness, (B) will often be immediately followed by the adverbial particle さえ. This shows that (B) is the noteworthy minimum extent.
Alternatively, さえ may be exchanged with other adverbial particles that fill a similar purpose such a も, すら, or まで. In most cases, は疎か sentences tend to have a fairly negative nuance.
Compared to はともかく:
Both set aside one item to comment on another, but the nuance differs. はおろか emphasizes that something is far beyond expectation, often meaning ‘let alone,’ and highlights an extreme gap, as in 漢字はおろか、ひらがなも読めない ('He can’t read hiragana, let alone kanji.'). はともかく means ‘setting aside’ or ‘regardless of,’ used to temporarily bracket one point and move on without judging degree, as in 値段はともかく、味は悪くない ('Putting the price aside, the taste isn’t bad.').
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