To say nothing of A; far from A; much less A; let alone A
This is often used to show the extremity of a situation; while the listener might think of A, it's actually far worse.
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お金が無いので映画館に行く所かバスさえ乗れません。
I don't have any money, so I can't even ride the bus, let alone go to see a movie.
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来週は漢字検定を受けるので、今週は遊ぶ所か他の教科も勉強出来ません。
Next week I'm taking the Kanji Kentei, so I don't have time to study other subjects, much less have fun.
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日本語を二ヶ月しか勉強して居ないので本を読む所か日常会話も出来ません。
Because I have only studied Japanese for two months, I can't even do normal conversation, not to mention reading books.
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１弗所か、１仙も持って居ない。
I don't have a cent, let alone a dollar.
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退屈為る所か、結構楽しかった。
Far from being bored, I had a great time.
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彼は其の手紙を読む所か、封も切らなかった。
Far from reading the letter, he did not even open it.
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彼女は彼を責める所か、彼に褒美をあげた。
Far from blaming him, she gave him a reward.
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Getting the sentences
Construction
(Elements in parentheses are optional.)
Basic Examples:
勝つ所か (much less win)
暑い所か (far from hot)
汚染所か (not to mention polluted)
Where this grammar is found
Grammar usage notes
(example sentences taken from mireille's post in the archived discussion section below)
"Not B, let alone A"
Example:
忙しくて、旅行するどころか、テレビを見るひまさえない
I'm so busy I don't even have time to watch TV, let alone go on a trip.
"B, not to mention A"; "not just A, but also B"
彼女は自動車のA級ライセンスどころか、飛行機の免許も持っている
She doesn't just have a class A license, she has a pilot's license too.
(The latter usage seems comparable in meaning to はもちろん)
"Not B, let alone A"
Example:
忙しくて、旅行するどころか、テレビを見るひまさえない
I'm so busy I don't even have time to watch TV, let alone go on a trip.
"B, not to mention A"; "not just A, but also B"
彼女は自動車のA級ライセンスどころか、飛行機の免許も持っている
She doesn't just have a class A license, she has a pilot's license too.
(The latter usage seems comparable in meaning to はもちろん)
English counterpart: far from; not just
Meaning/Function: a conjunction indicating that someone/something is very far from an expected state
Examples:
Type 1: (A) affirmative; (B) affirmative
Meaning: not just (A); even (B)
Ex. (1): クラークさんはさしみが食べられるどころが、納豆まで食べられる。
(Mr. Clark is not just able to eat sashimi; he can even eat natto.)
Type 2: (A) affirmative; (B) negative
Meaning: far from (A); not even (B)
Ex. (2): スミスさんは日本語の新聞が読めるどころが、ひらがなも知らない。
(Mr. Smith is far from being able to read a Japanese newspaper; he doesn't even know hiragana.)
Type 3: (A) negative; (B) affirmative
Meaning: far from not (A); even (B)
Ex. (3): スミスさんは日本語が書けないどころが、日本語で小説が書けるぐらいだ。
(Mr. Smith is far from not being able to write Japanese; he can even write a novel in Japanese.)
Type 4: (A) negative; (B) negative
Meaning: not just not (A); not even (B)
Ex. (4): ジョンソンさんは漢字が書けないどころが、ひらがなも書けない。
(Mr. Johnson is not just unable to write kanji; he cannot write even hiragana.)
Meaning/Function: a conjunction indicating that someone/something is very far from an expected state
Examples:
Type 1: (A) affirmative; (B) affirmative
Meaning: not just (A); even (B)
Ex. (1): クラークさんはさしみが食べられるどころが、納豆まで食べられる。
(Mr. Clark is not just able to eat sashimi; he can even eat natto.)
Type 2: (A) affirmative; (B) negative
Meaning: far from (A); not even (B)
Ex. (2): スミスさんは日本語の新聞が読めるどころが、ひらがなも知らない。
(Mr. Smith is far from being able to read a Japanese newspaper; he doesn't even know hiragana.)
Type 3: (A) negative; (B) affirmative
Meaning: far from not (A); even (B)
Ex. (3): スミスさんは日本語が書けないどころが、日本語で小説が書けるぐらいだ。
(Mr. Smith is far from not being able to write Japanese; he can even write a novel in Japanese.)
Type 4: (A) negative; (B) negative
Meaning: not just not (A); not even (B)
Ex. (4): ジョンソンさんは漢字が書けないどころが、ひらがなも書けない。
(Mr. Johnson is not just unable to write kanji; he cannot write even hiragana.)
機能：予想外の結果/事実
形：V辞書・ない/A1い・くない/N・A2（ーだ）・でない＋どころか＿＿。
意味：
１。私は＿＿と予想したが、結果は全然違って＿＿＿＿。
２。相手の＿＿という予想は全然違っていて、実際は＿＿＿＿。
形：V辞書・ない/A1い・くない/N・A2（ーだ）・でない＋どころか＿＿。
意味：
１。私は＿＿と予想したが、結果は全然違って＿＿＿＿。
２。相手の＿＿という予想は全然違っていて、実際は＿＿＿＿。
Jangankan, malah, bukan hanya tidak
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AどころかB
Contohnya : 忙しくて、休みどころか、食事も時間がない
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AどころかB
Contohnya : 忙しくて、休みどころか、食事も時間がない
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