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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
もし~としても
1. Even if A... (chances of A are pretty low)
   もし   ここ          いる          
Even if he comes, don't say that I'm here!
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ドロガメ
Level: 9

Are verbs/adjectives usually in the past tense in this form? The sentence under the "Examples" tab is, but the example phrases in the grammar section are all in dictionary form...

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9 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

The example stubs beneath the construction are all in present tense; it can be used in both present and past :)

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9 years ago
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ドロガメ
Level: 9

I see, thank you very much! Is there a difference in meaning when past or present tense is used? They both seem to indicate potential future events.

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9 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

Not exactly - the condition they refer to can be something that is in the present/future, or something that in the past.


ったとしても - even had you won yesterday

つとしても - even if you were to win tomorrow

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9 years ago
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ニラちゃん
Level: 1
I am trying to make my own sentence, please correct it if it's wrong. 
もし がもういたとしても、のことがまだきです。
Thanks, ありがとう。
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6 years ago
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solostyle
Level: 13
Can you post it in English please? It is hard to tell what you're trying to say. Is it, even if he told her he liked her, I'd still like him? The two が particles throw me off, and also "もういた" I'm trying to figure out what characters are missing there.
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6 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281
 もしがいるとしても、はまだのことがきです。<< This sounds better!
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6 years ago
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houston_mp
Level: 1
Can you use this with na adjectives? I can only find one clear source (https://japanesetest4you.com/f...)that says you can so I wasn't quite sure. It seems weird to me that you are able to use it for nouns and i-adjectives but not -na adjectives as well.

ex. 
だとしてもわないでください。
Even if it happens to be weird, please don't laugh

Also would you be able to use そう with this as well, as in:
しそうだとしても、べたいの?
Even if his food were to look delicious, do you really want to eat it?

My examples probably aren't the best but is this grammar point usable in this way?
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6 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281
You are correct, they can indeed be used. I'll update the page now!
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6 years ago
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Wouldn't a だ be needed after a Noun +としても?

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3 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

Thank you for catching that! I just got it added in there.

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3 years ago
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emanresU
Level: 83

I'm confused about the past vs present verbs here. I see you've addressed it before, but it seems to me that the example sentence still uses the past tense verb even though it refers to a possible future event. (「もしがここにたとしても」"Even if he comes...")

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20 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

The English may need some revision, but the past tense is typically used similarly to English in that past can be used for a future action that is not considered possible. "If I were to win the lottery" <-- we generally think of this as (effectively) impossible.

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17 days ago
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