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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
に比べて/に比べ
1. When compared to A
        ある                       
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Level: 1
There is also another construction possible:
Sentence + のに +

Example:
するのにべ、くは便だが、もある。
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14 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281
Great, thanks for the suggestion!
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14 years ago
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Isn't construction 3 the same as 2? In さん’s するの」and[にべ] are distinct units, in which the the の is simply nominalizing the する. Therefore #3 doesn't exist I don't think? Or am I incorrect? Be great to hear other people's views. Thanks :)
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マイコー
Level: 281
You're correct in that it is nominalizing the verb, so...techinically, yes, they could be considered the same. I added the second because I believe that a lot of people don't immediately think of nominalized nouns when they see the word 'Noun' as part of a grammar structure. In other words, it is just to make it a bit clearer for users.
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thanks! :)
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Are there any nuanced differences between にべ and にべて?
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virmaior
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べ is the version for formal writing (). So the differences all derive from that. Using the and its friend である in speech make you sound like you're talking down to people -- or so I'm told.
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Thanks, thought so!
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やれやれ
Level: 229

I found this phrase and the truth is that it sounds very good to me, but it doesn't follow the pattern given here.

べるとくなったとはっきりじられる。

I.e., instead of にべ or にべて it's using にべると
Is it incorrect in any way? kao_yes.pngkao_no.png

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マイコー
Level: 281

That works - it's more of the "standard" way to use the verb, instead of a specific structure that has been "packaged" as a grammar/expression point for learning.

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