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This topic is tied to the below grammar expression in the grammar library.
たり~たりする
1. Do things like A and B; states/conditions like A and B
あの   すぐ          する  
That child is quick to anger, and to tears.
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mireille
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This grammar point is also possible with adjectives.
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マイコー
Level: 281
Thanks!
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looh
Level: 16
Is the たり construction limited to two things? Do you also have to have an object for your verbs? D: I had a comment on my sentence that suggested I do.
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fareastfurfaro
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I'm pretty sure it's not limited to just two. I've also seen it used once just like し can be used once to give a general impression and let the listener assume you mean additional actions/things.

Anyone else have any input?
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マイコー
Level: 281
I don't think it's restricted, but I think it's usually two (or sometimes one, like furfaro suggested). You do not need objects on your verb.

みだったからたりべたりした。
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looh
Level: 16
Well, my sentence was this:
で、んだり、いたりします。」

And a native corrected me to say this:
で、を(を、を)んだり、いたりします。

That's the reason why I'm confused.
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マイコー
Level: 281
I wonder if it is specfic to む, and that maybe the Japanese just don't usually just say 'I read', but they specify what they read.

What if you try this one (can you ask this same person?)
んだりしたりしました.

While む can take an object, the context suggests what it is you were drinking. I can't say for sure, but I just don't feel like it's the grammar that is making the object requisite, but the context and the verb used.
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looh
Level: 16
It could be a case of "popular" usage, like in English. While it makes sense grammatically to say it a certain way, common usage makes it otherwise.

GTOJP speaks Japanese only so I can't really *ask* them without being blown away. You could ask them yourself, since you're probably better than I am.
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マイコー
Level: 281
Is that sentence still in your list? What grammar point is it under? That comment's probably from awhile back - I don't think I've seen that user on in quite awhile.
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テリフン
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Could I have an example of how this would be used with Nouns?
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12 years ago
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だったりしたは、です。」 [i]In the case of conditions like rain, the trip will be suspended.[/i]
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テリフン
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Thank you so much! :D
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kjulia28
Level: 199
I tried parsing a sentence with adjectives, and the り kept throwing it off. Maybe my sentence is faulty but I couldn't get it to work; using brackets I then got 'unlisted' for the adjectives.
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マイコー
Level: 281
Yea - the り doesn't exist in the grammar dictionary for the adjectives, so I always mark it up as you did. Sorry for the inconvenience! I'll get that added into the current beta.
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Is it okay if the adjectives are of different types? Like, can you say だったりやさしかったりする?
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10 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 281
*pretty* sure that it's fine.
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Posad
Level: 1

As the construction for verbs and い-adjectives are basically the same for this grammar point, could the い-adjective description change to match the verb? I.e. {い-adjective, past} り?

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マイコー
Level: 281

It could - however, the internals of the usage display system are not exactly the most flexible, and I do not believe it would correctly work at the moment to do that with the adjective (without breaking the possibility of the non-English versions being able to read it.)

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Vinnmobile
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If I say I don't do things like x and y and I use the negative forms of those verbs within the sentence, am I better off ending the sentence with yをnegative verbたりします。or しません?

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マイコー
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I'm pretty sure it would be the final する that is negated.

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