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が っ て 居 る 
1. Wants to A
弟 は 馬 に 乗 り た が っ て 居 る の で 明日 一 緒 に 農 家 に 行 く 積 も り 。 
My younger brother wants to ride a horse, so we are going to go to a farm tomorrow.
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2. Shows signs of state/condition A
あや ち ゃ ん は 何 か を 欲 し が っ て 居 る 。 
It seems like Aya wants something.
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3. Don't be A (afraid, shy, etc.)
そ ん な に 恥 ず か し が ら な い で 堂 々 と ス ピ ー チ 為 て 下 さ い 。 
Don't be so shy and please give a great speech.
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Shiruz
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Thank you very much! now i understood! :D
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12 years ago
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naikou3611
Level: 10
About the second usage, by referring verbs which represent a state/condition (like 疲れる、混乱する、怒る, etc.), isn't it still possible to use it with verb? For instance, saying '怒りたがっている' doesn't always mean '(seems) want to angry' but means 'seems angry' instead. Then how about 疲れたがる, does it always means 'seems want to get tired'? I believe it's roughly depend on context, though. So how do you think?
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12 years ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

@mysticfive thoughts on this nuance?

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12 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2449
About the second usage, by referring verbs which represent a state/condition (like 疲れる、混乱する、怒る, etc.), isn't it still possible to use it with verb? For instance, saying '怒りたがっている' doesn't always mean '(seems) want to angry' but means 'seems angry' instead. Then how about 疲れたがる, does it always means 'seems want to get tired'? I believe it's roughly depend on context, though. So how do you think?

I've never heard this grammar pattern used in this way; usually, if you want to say someone seems angry/tired etc, you hear things like 怒っているらしい、疲れているようです、混雑しているみたい。Not to say the above *can't* be used, just that if it can, it's probably a rarer usage... But especially since the ~たい form is in there for verbs, it would seem to lead one to believe that the condition is desired, like you said - one wants to become angry, one wants to be tired...

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12 years ago
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naikou3611
Level: 10
I guess you're right. Another one, are these count as the second usage (or the third?) too? 暑がり is sensitive to heat 寒がり is sensitive to cold 怖がり is coward when「屋(や)」attached, it'd mean the 'type of the person that (sensitive to...)'; it doesn't seems work with all adjective, though. And for 強がる, does it always means "pretend to be tough" (negative nuance) and not "seems strong" (does not contain negative nuance)?
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12 years ago
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mysticfive
Level: 2449

I would say the ~がり is most similar to usage 2, but I'm not sure if I'd put them together in the same thing.

with 強がる, it's not something that I've personally heard too often, but I would say that it would more have the pretending connotation - if you wanted to say someone seems strong, I'd go more with 強そう

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12 years ago
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Karlla
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The second example sentence for the second usage is actually misplaced. It should be linked to the first usage instead.

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2 years ago
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