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mikaelster
Level: 199

Ive noticed about half of my mistakes are little extra lines, missing lines, or slightly misplaced lines (like 石右).

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1.) Would it just read like when you misspell in english?

Like lose/loose, forrest/forest, you're/your, or tgis/this, where often you dont even notice the mistake because the general shape and the rest of the sentence gives you enough context to read it correctly?


2a.) A lot of these mistakes also happen repeatedly, which is probably muscle memory and the like.. (like wa-crown instead of u-crown in the copy kanji)

Is that something i should put more effort into, is it a skill that just comes with time, or should i just ignore them?


2b.) Idk if people know how kanji are graded in schools.. but in my primary school we had "schusselfehler" (inattention mistakes) that were still marked in red but not subtracted from the score..

Should i mark them as inattentive instead of wrong?


3.) I know a lot if people say "handwriting isnt really nessecary these days" but i dont really care about that.. i want to learn it because i feel like it.

Other times with similar questions people say grading is useless.. but its fun to me and it helps me target mistakes.

(Just because those answers happen a lot) Those points really arent what the question is about. Its just about the importance of writing accuracy.

Ive tried looking online but im not far enough into learning to find the right resources yet..

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5 days ago
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本影
Level: 211

Purely based on the fact that you're not native Japanese, most of these mistakes would be overlooked. I could even see people saying you have really lovely handwriting.


That said, do the mistakes stand out? Yes. I can see them quite clearly and putting effort into them would honestly help. I asked my partner (native Japanese) and she said that she could understand, but that they really stood out to her as well. In my opinion, they stand out more because they're not the kind of mistakes natives typically make. Additionally, from the way the strokes are written, it looks like you're holding the pen in a very different way from natives (the 二 and 日 show it the most because they're covered in such early years in the Japanese education system).


All that to say... Could I see someone confirming something you wrote down was correct? Yes. Do I think you'd get a lot of compliments? Also yes.

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4 days ago
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mikaelster
Level: 199
本影 (10月23日, 17:32)

Additionally, from the way the strokes are written, it looks like you're holding the pen in a very different way from natives (the 二 and 日 show it the most because they're covered in such early years in the Japanese education system).


All that to say... Could I see someone confirming something you wrote down was correct? Yes. Do I think you'd get a lot of compliments? Also yes.

'​Holding the pen different' as in the way that you grip it?

These here are all written in 5mm boxes (math grid) because im being stingy on paper.. so theyre a bit messier than normal since theyre quite small.. ive been told i write very textbook/print like.. maybe thats why it looks odd?


If its very apparant i suppose 'typos' would be a good comparison.. like 'tgis'

Now to figure out how to iron out such little mistakes.. mnemonics and repetition wont help there..

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4 days ago
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Hruk 3
Level: 577

3.) Those people are wrong!!! I find learning to write a kanji helps me remember and recognize it way better, even outside of writing.

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4 days ago
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本影
Level: 211
mikaelster (10月24日, 1:14)
本影 (10月23日, 17:32)

Additionally, from the way the strokes are written, it looks like you're holding the pen in a very different way from natives (the 二 and 日 show it the most because they're covered in such early years in the Japanese education system).


All that to say... Could I see someone confirming something you wrote down was correct? Yes. Do I think you'd get a lot of compliments? Also yes.

'​Holding the pen different' as in the way that you grip it?

These here are all written in 5mm boxes (math grid) because im being stingy on paper.. so theyre a bit messier than normal since theyre quite small.. ive been told i write very textbook/print like.. maybe thats why it looks odd?


If its very apparant i suppose 'typos' would be a good comparison.. like 'tgis'

Now to figure out how to iron out such little mistakes.. mnemonics and repetition wont help there..

​Yes, exactly.


Typically when Japanese people hold a pen/pencil it's much closer to vertical than westerns hold it. Since you're not holding the pen quite as vertical, there's a lot more curvature than I would typically see from a native and the curvature is in different places. Truthfully though, outside of maybe helping a little bit with keeping the characters balanced, and changing some curvature it's not a huge deal. I can only notice because I'm sat staring at it, specifically to see what looks "different", in an everyday situation that won't be happening.


The only real way to sort out the mistakes is... Well, to practice. Make a point of practicing the correct variation, and maybe even look into the Kanji Kentei. When you learn things in a similar way to natives, it can help the output be more "native-like".


Don't give up, the handwriting already looks really good and good luck with your future practice!

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4 days ago
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Henrietta2011
Level: 435

I can read the kanji. I don't think you would have much trouble and can possibly get away with it. The only time when stroke orders are crazy strict as far as I have heard would be the kanji kentei where each stroke has to be perfect. Assuming you are not achieving that level of perfection, it should be fine. I had very similar handwriting back in school and still do but I still passed Japanese as a second language getting away with my poor kanji writing skills

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