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saaaaraaaaaa
Level: 7

hi! i started japanese around 2 days ago, i’m at my 35th hirigana and i’m lowkey nervous for what’s to come. i’m learning in order to read untranslated manga & have conversations with japanese friends… which sounds a bit odd & japanaboo-like 😭

kanji is what’s scaring me the most. my memory isn’t the best but i’m motivated to finish my hirigana, katakana, then worry about kanji. but i feel like 4k words wouldn’t fit my memory so well. like, how do people manage to remember all that? also- how much kanji is necessarily needed to have conversations with others? maybe even understand japanese media on tiktok or instagram for example?

thanks for reading my post!

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10 hours ago
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Yes, it gets harder, but people have this amazing capacity to retain tons of intricate detail when language is involved. Don’t worry, you can do it. The main hurdle is just to keep plugging away at it day by day.

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10 hours ago
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I actually don't remember the wordskao_sorry.png

, but I don't think that it will go very hard. It's just practice. This is what I thinkkao_think.png

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You can do itcheese.png!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9 hours ago
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Ember08
Level: 314

Honestly, I don't know how people manage to remember all of it- as a generally terrible learner, I didn't expect to remember anything, and somehow I have. My only advice would just be, don't be afraid to go slow. I'm apparently very far behind where I "should" be, but I don't mind because going incredibly slow at first really helped with retention, I think. But honestly, if you enjoy learning Japanese, I'd say that's pretty much half the battle!

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9 hours ago
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・にゃー
Level: 159

So firstly, I want to address the idea that you don't have the memory for 4k words. Do you know how many words the average adult English speaker knows? According to a quick search, many articles say it's between 20,000 and 40,000 words. This seems to hold pretty steady across languages, too, though I don't have a scientific source backing up these claims. That said, you have a lot more capacity for knowledge than you think you do. If you can learn 20k English words, there's no reason you couldn't do the same in Japanese.

With that said, yes it does get harder. But there's always tricks you can employ to help you memorize. Use lots of nmemonics! They work! Also pay close attention to kanji. You'll notice that they often break apart into a bunch of kanji you already know, but smushed together. This makes learning them much easier. For example, is made of , , and. These are called components. They can also hint at meaning and in some cases, pronunciation.

Do not focus entirely on kanji. Learn your vocab and grammar, too. The writing system is useless without vocabulary and vocabulary is useless without grammar. Renshuu's recommended mastery schedules will teach all 3 in an order that makes sense.

One last thing, kanji are not words, they're parts of words. So while you might learn 2-4k kanji, you'll be learning a lot more words. Like I said, probably on the order of 20k in the long run. But learning words tends to get easier as you learn kanji, because kanji kinda act as natural nmemonics in a lot of cases.

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7 hours ago
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むじな
Level: 712

I wonder. Does it really get harder? Some things stick more easily, others won't stay in my memory even after a hundred repeats, because my brain and I have different ideas about what's interesting, useful and important to retain. But that was true when I was first learning hiragana, and it's still true now. Sure, kanji have multiple readings and usually more strokes than the kana, and a lot of words are made up of more than one kanji. But if you take them one at a time, I couldn't say learning was "harder" than learning ち.

If we looked ahead at everything we had to do to complete a given task, we wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. I promise, just showing up for your daily practice and doing your bit will get you so far you won't believe it. You'll look back and won't know how you got from here to there.

Also (BUT I don't mean to minimise the effort of those who really have a particularly hard time remembering things), I've met so many people who had this habit of saying "oh, but I have a terrible memory" or "me, I'm a terrible learner", and it was so often not true. You think 4,000 words will never fit in your head at the same time? How many animals can you name? How many fruit, tools, holiday destinations, kinds of shoes, sports, snippets of songs, catchphrases from ads you heard as a child? There are millions of things zooming around inside our heads, and we work with them so naturally we hardly even notice what we do. Then, when we are about to learn something new, we think "but that's so complicated".

So: as long as you enjoy Japanese, you can do this. If you lose interest at some point, that's perfectly fine. But don't worry, I bet it won't be because "you can't do it" or "it's too complicated". Step by step does it, and Renshuu is here to help! kao_punch.png

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3 hours ago
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Icepick87
Level: 609
You will be very used to hiragana, because it's used a lot.

It will just get harder trying to remember everything else, so that takes time.
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