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I'm interested in studying readings for common Japanese names, since it tends not to be super obvious what reading to use for each character. The dream would basically just be a custom schedule of the top 200-300 most common Japanese names, and the only study vector would be Kanji to Kana. Does a schedule/list like that happen to exist? If not, how hard would it be to make myself? Thanks!
If you go to community lists and type "surname" in the search, there are 4 or 5 lists under assorted lists with a couple hundred names. You could add all those in a new schedule with the correct vector.
If you want to create a custom list, you could maybe use the advanced search tool. Search again for "surname", and add the results in a new schedule.
Not sure if there is any other easy way. I guess you could find a list online of names and just feed them all in the text analyser tool and create a schedule that way, but I'm not sure if the readings would be correct without furigana.
Thanks! I do see a few of them. I was also interested in given names, not just surnames though, and I can't find any lists along those lines. I'll have to look into trying the text analyzer tool.
New question for this! I tried out adding all the names from that list to a schedule, and that'll make for decent studying of about 160 names. That said, I have a new problem: when I study kanji->kana, it'll give me furigana for Kanji I don't know and I can't study words with no known Kanji at all.
I would personally consider names to be entirely separate things to memorize, so I'm not too worried about whether I've already studied the Kanji that makes up the name, so I'd love to somehow disable this feature for only the name schedule (I'd rather not set Kanji I haven't properly studied to known just to get around this). I don't see a setting like that, but is there any chance it's possible?
Go to the schedule's settings and turn the kanji>kana vector off
You can change how unknown kanji are displayed in options; however, this setting is global, so you will have to toggle it on and off if you only want it for this schedule.
Go to the schedule's settings and turn the kanji>kana vector off
Well the point is that that's the only vector I want to study...
You can change how unknown kanji are displayed in options; however, this setting is global, so you will have to toggle it on and off if you only want it for this schedule.
Yeah, I saw that setting. Unfortunate that it's global, I'd love to have more fine-grain control.
How will you learn the reading of names of you can't see it I guess I am a bit confused at what you're trying to do
Okay, so names are just names. They don't have definitions, and I'm not too interested in listening, pitch/accent, and writing practice for them. Additionally, I'm not that interested in being able to write a name I hear or see in Hiragana, only read a name I see written in Kanji. That means the only vector that is relevant for my purposes is the Kanji -> Kana vector, so if I were to turn it off, I would have no vectors selected for the schedule.
The problem I'm running into is that I'd like to be able to study names that have Kanji I've never seen before, but this is automatically blocked by Renshuu. Similarly, I'd like to not have Furigana hints for the Kanji I'm unfamiliar with in names that do also contain Kanji I know, but this is also not possible without constantly fiddling around with my global account settings. It seems like Renshuu just unfortunately doesn't support the customization I'm looking for here.
Michael has talked about an enhancement he would like to make where whether a kanji is known or not applies to a single reading rather than all of them.
That probably wouldn’t fix everything, since many names have irregular readings, but it would be a step in the right direction.
I know what you mean, but I don't remember exactly how the vector works when you don't know the kanji so that's why I was confused. But I thought Renshuu's dictionary didn't have more than like two surnames, and I would have figured the setting doesn't affect custom words. Curious. I don't have much experience with custom schedules I suppose
This is new ground for me too.
It occurs to me that there is another way to approach this that gets a little closer to what @Spore18 wants.
If you configure the list to be kanji vectors only, it won’t let you study words that aren’t in kanji or that use kanji you don’t know.
Actually, it seems like @Spore18 has already done this.
It's a bit of a sticky edge case The only way to have this would be if Michael allowed the unkown kanji setting in the schedule settings, it may even just be a boolean value to change, depending on how the code is written.
Though in my opinion, I don't think there would be enough usage to warrant adding this kind of fine-grained setting.
I think the best way to go here would be to actually study the missing kanji by adding a kanji helper schedule to your names schedule using the three-dots menu.
If you have Renshuu pro, you could theoretically use the writing vector
The vector should only show the kanji alone. You then guess the answer while clicking on "i don't know", and on the results page, click on "change to correct" if you guessed right. That's still only two clicks, the same as normal. But I think that would mess up the writing mastery of your kanji
Though in my opinion, I don't think there would be enough usage to warrant adding this kind of fine-grained setting.
I think the best way to go here would be to actually study the missing kanji by adding a kanji helper schedule to your names schedule using the three-dots menu.
If you have Renshuu pro, you could theoretically use the writing vector The vector should only show the kanji alone. You then guess the answer while clicking on "i don't know", and on the results page, click on "change to correct" if you guessed right. That's still only two clicks, the same as normal. But I think that would mess up the writing mastery of your kanjiYeah that's the key, I don't want to mess with the mastery/knowledge settings of Kanji that I will *eventually* study but am not there yet. If I were to set a bunch of Kanji I haven't studied to known in advance, I believe my N1 Kanji schedules would start throwing a bunch of new Kanji at me all at once.
I suppose patience is the best way forward. It's not the end of the world to just wait until I've studied a Kanji to start studying the names it's used in. It just feels like a bit of a waste when I don't have much trouble sight reading Kanji I've seen a few times without proper study, especially when they're part of multi-Kanji words.