掲示板 Forums - Kanji quizzes still including disabled readings

I’ve noticed that changes I’ve made don’t always make into the schedule, especially if I make them mid-quiz. Check the dictionary to see which readings renshuu thinks you know. If that doesn’t agree with what you’re seeing in the quiz, then they’re probably out of sync. Michael can fix it for you, or if you’re adventurous, you could try deleting the schedule and recreating it.

Note: I’m not that adventurous myself.

Do you mind going to Settings > Experimental, and confirming for me which option you have selected? If you're on the red option (The old system), consider changing to a new one, as the new choices will fully replace the old system sooner than later, so I'd like to see if the issue is still present in there.

I have exactly this same problem. I reported it through the ? recently. I am on the old system. I tried the new system just now and I still don't like it.

The new system with only known readings is great for new learners who don't know much kanji. Every kanji is common. However I know over 1000 kanji. The kanji are getting rare. When a rare kanji is learned, the readings will be grayed out because there are no common words with that kanji. Knowing the meaning of a kanji without a reading seems meaningless. It also makes learning harder. The word helper only helps to a certain extent.

I have previously explained why I don't like the new system, when it was first released. There is no good transition to learning higher grades of kanji readings. 小 to 中 transition for example. Also the transition from the old to the new system. You would get flooded with reviews (Not learning! This is the problem!) for readings you never learned.

Right now my plan is to finish the kanji lists that I am studying, then go back through every kanji and manually study up to 小 then 中, then switch to your new feature. I wish that I didn't have to do that manual part. I think I need to do this if the old system is going away and/or not getting bug fixes.

I think the reason I'm here right now is because I studied the kanji through the N lists up to N2, which have weird readings marked for learning. Like how 甘やかす is in, but 甘い is out.

All that being said, the new system seems great, but I just can't switch yet. Please let me know if there is something I'm missing. I think I may be approaching learning readings incorrectly, but also personally I think it is very important.

I sent the ? message about a week or two ago. Not really sure. The problem was I learned a kanji which added a rare reading, probably due to a mistake in one of the kanji kentei lists. Maybe it was 滞. My dictionary has "tei" unchecked, but the flashcard says I know it. Switching to the new system marks "tei" as checked, as expected.

I discussed the problems of the new system with you back when it was first created and released to everyone.

1. When using the new system with any setting, then every reading that is higher level than what you've selected will be grayed out. So a kanji with only high school readings will be grayed out if you've selected "no extra readings", "renshuu recommended", "primary school", or "middle school". As for an example, how about 墾? It only has "kon" as a middle school reading, and there are no "common words" that use it in the dictionary. If you selected "no extra readings" then you would not learn this reading.

2. Let's say I'm going to "renshuu recommended". 14 terms immediately show up as level 1 because I don't know either kunyomi or onyomi. The mastery 0 problem. One such kanji is 位 where I don't know the reading くらい. If I did a kanji quiz, I'd immediately be tested on my knowledge of this reading which I've never seen before. In addition, if there is a kanji that I already know a kunyomi reading, but a new one is added, then some day in the future, I'd get a review for that kunyomi that I definitely do not know.

3. This is exactly the same as going from the old system to new system in point 2 above. Any level increase will cause the same problem. I think what is needed is a new learning screen where new readings are introduced.