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デニクス
Level: 61

Hi just a quick question about the Kao Coins drop rate. I know this is a learning app first so I should not stress too much about gamification balancing buuut somehow it's bothering me a bit :D

It feels like bigger quizzes are discouraged as I also get a coin for a 1-item-quiz. Maybe this is already balanced by increasing the drop rate of rare coins with growing quiz size and it is just not that noticable because of the rarity of the event?

Small nitpick but well, I thought I'd just ask :)

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11 days ago
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Michael has discussed the algorithm in previous forum posts, but I forget the details. Longer quizzes give you more pulls when you start getting duplicates. I think he said that the optimal quiz size is twenty-five items, assuming 100% accuracy.

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11 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

There is an unpublished minimum number of terms, but if you don't get over that, you will get a kao-coin, but it is from a small set of 5-10 coins, and you will NOT get bonus points for duplicates of those coins.

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10 days ago
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デニクス
Level: 61

There is an unpublished minimum number of terms, but if you don't get over that, you will get a kao-coin, but it is from a small set of 5-10 coins, and you will NOT get bonus points for duplicates of those coins.


Are you sure that it works as intended?

I always get the "Got a bonus" sign even after 1 item quizes but I have to check if the points really go up or if it's just a misleading visual.

Also I just got the "あわ (#411)" coin as a new coin from a 1 item word review quiz. I have over 250 common coins so I would be surprised if it's still one from "the small 5-10 coin set".

Not that it's too important but I just noticed it and thought you might be interested in the feedback :)

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3 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

When you say "1 word review quiz", does that mean the system said "you have 1 term to review today", then you went in and did it? Or do you mean something like "I did a focused review, answered one question, then jumped to the end?"

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1 day ago
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デニクス
Level: 61

When you say "1 word review quiz", does that mean the system said "you have 1 term to review today", then you went in and did it? Or do you mean something like "I did a focused review, answered one question, then jumped to the end?"


the first one. or the case was I have 26 cases to review but my max quiz size was 25. so the second quiz was 1 term.

haven't really done focused reviews yet so no idea how it behaves differently

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1 day ago
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マイコー
Level: 281

Ok, so I looked at the code a bit more closely, and the restrictions are removed if you are studying a schedule and it has naturally come up with a small number of terms. In other words, if you are trying to game the system with a short list that you made and quizzing repeatedly, it's not going to work, but you shouldn't be punished if, for example, you have 26 terms for the day, so 25 in the first quiz, then 1 in the second.

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デニクス
Level: 61

Ok, so I looked at the code a bit more closely, and the restrictions are removed if you are studying a schedule and it has naturally come up with a small number of terms. In other words, if you are trying to game the system with a short list that you made and quizzing repeatedly, it's not going to work, but you shouldn't be punished if, for example, you have 26 terms for the day, so 25 in the first quiz, then 1 in the second.

amazing :)

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5 hours ago
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ツカレタくん
Level: 327

Ok, so I looked at the code a bit more closely, and the restrictions are removed if you are studying a schedule and it has naturally come up with a small number of terms. In other words, if you are trying to game the system with a short list that you made and quizzing repeatedly, it's not going to work, but you shouldn't be punished if, for example, you have 26 terms for the day, so 25 in the first quiz, then 1 in the second.

The mark of a true programmer is having to look back at code you've already written to see what it does.kao_shiawase.png

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5 hours ago
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Level: 281

renshuu's probably around 700k lines of code, so while I remember a shockingly large amount of it, there's limits to my old brain.

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